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What happens when a piece of copper is placed in 1M HCl?

Calatcryptomathicdotcom Yeah  Follow

OK, if you takes a piece of copper metal (I employ plumbing copper, high purity) in concentrated HCl the copper, in time, will be cleaned of its Cu2O coating. [EDIT] To quote a source:

Copper has excellent atmospheric corrosion resistance. It becomes naturally covered with an oxide film, changing its color to dark brown/black in normal atmospheric conditions. Later, a green patina forms on copper outdoors with a varying intensity depending on where and how the surface is exposed.

So, perform an experiment on copper metal taking before and after pictures, and see if it is noticeably different.

Underlying chemistry, per Wikipedia, to quote:

Copper(I) chloride...is a white solid sparingly soluble in water, but very soluble in concentrated hydrochloric acid. Impure samples appear green due to the presence of copper(II) chloride (CuCl2).

Also, forms a chloro-complex with concentrated HCl:

It forms complexes with halide ions, for example forming H3O+ CuCl2− in concentrated hydrochloric acid.

So, expected reactions in concentrated HCl, a cleaning off of any Cu2O coating:

$\ce{HCl + H2O <=> H3O+ + Cl-}$

$\ce{Cu2O + 2 HCl -> 2 CuCl (s) + H2O}$

$\ce{CuCl (s) + H3O+ + Cl- <=> (H3O)CuCl2 (aq)}$

I have performed experiments where one adds much NaCl creating a soluble cuprous presence (in the form of NaCuCl2). Wikipedia also cites a preparation to Cupric oxychloride based on this solubility conversion of cuprous per Eq(6) and Eq(7) here, where:

$\ce{ Cu (s) + CuCl2 (aq) -> 2 CuCl (s)}$

$\ce{ 2 CuCl (s) + 2 NaCl (aq) -> 2 NaCuCl2 (aq)}$

There is no other apparent reaction occurring with the freshly cleaned Copper.

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Dennis Sardella  Follow

Without oxygen or oxidating agent, nothing happen to copper in hydrochloric acid, but dissolution of surface oxides. The only oxidant there is $\ce{H+}$, which is with $E^{\circ}=\pu{0.00 V}$ too weak oxidant to oxidize $\ce{Cu}$ with $E^{\circ}=\pu{+0.34 V}$.

If oxygen is present, then it gets slowly dissolved to tetrachlorocuprate ( similarly as to copper acetate in vinegar ):

$$\ce{2 Cu + O2 + 4 H+ + 8 Cl- -> 2 CuCl4^2- + 2 H2O}$$

The dissolution is very quick, if oxidant as hydrogen peroxide is present( it dissolves gold as well )

$$\ce{ Cu + H2O2 + 2 H+ + 4 Cl- -> CuCl4^2- + H2O}$$

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Isaac  Follow
Excuse me, but 2/3 of your answer addresses possible reaction with O2 or H2O2 creating a cupric complex that will not be actually created as per the experiment described. The actual, little known, cuprous complex created is detailed in my response. Your not knowing this is understandable, but should not be upvoted, in my opinion.More
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Edible History  Follow
@AJKOER Well, the OP has been interested in Cu itself.More
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David Bhattarai  Follow

Can I just clarify, without going into the detail of the specific problem, if you have Cu(s) in solution (like you do here) can it ONLY be oxidised? So essentially you're looking for whether there's anything in solution that can oxidise Cu?

Let us take a longer approach to address your query. For electrochemical problems like these, first you have to make a list of starting materials and possible products. Do a thought experiment even before even looking up the tables. It is long way but it will help you in doing future problems.

Your question is: What happens when a piece of copper is placed in 1M HCl?

Do a thought experiment + use some basic intuitive chemistry.

Making a list of starting materials, a) Cu metal, b) H$^+$, c) Cl$^-$.

Now there are only two possibilities for each substance.

a) Copper Cu can be oxidized to Cu$^+$ or Cu$^{2+}$ or reduced to Cu$^-$. Basic chemistry tells us that metals like to form cations so Cu$^-$ can be eliminated. Similarly, there is possibility for Cu$^+$ or Cu$^{2+}$. However, say, you are just interested in Cu$^{2+}$.

Now you have the problem well defined: Will Cu -> Cu$^{2+}$?

b) Follow the same reasoning: H$^+$, it can be oxidized to H$^{2+}$ or reduced to H$_2$. Basic chemistry will tell you that H$^{2+}$ is not possible. Now your question is more well defined: Will H$^+$ -> H$_2$

c) In the same way, ask the same question for chloride ion. It can be oxidized to Cl$_2$ or reduced to Cl$^{2-}$. Basic chemistry would tell you that Cl$^{2-}$ is not feasible. So your only concern is: Will Cl$^-$ -> Cl$_2$

Now you can ask only two questions:

Can copper metal reduce H$^+$ to H$_2$?

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Can copper metal oxidize Cl$^-$ to Cl$_2$? This can be easily eliminated because in order for copper to oxidize it must reduce itself further, which is not possible.

At this stage you can utilize the electrode potentials. Recall cathode refers to reduction and anode refers to oxidationEcell= E$_{cathode}$-E$_{anode}$

Ecell= E(for hydrogen half cell bc it is being reduced) - E (copper half cell)

Ecell= 0.00- (+0.34) = - 0.34 V

The negative sign shows this not possible under these conditions.

Do the same for chloride ion.

Ecell= E(Reduction of Cu to Cu$^-$) - E (chlorine half cell)Ecell= Undefined- (+1.36) = Undefined because Cu$^-$ does not exist in solution.

In short nothing will happen to copper in HCl.

P.S. Practically, HCl slowly dissolves copper in the presence of oxygen. This not relevant here.

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Fred Carroll  Follow
Thank you! That makes it clearer :)More
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Elon Musk  Follow
The expansive thought-provoking answer still does not address what actually occurs in the conditions presented. The copper metal is cleaned of its oxide coating (natural formed), and a little known cuprous chloro complex is created, as I noted in my answer.More
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John Collins  Follow
copper metal when it is dipped in 1 M HCl. You are right, a small amount of copper oxide dissolves, but the chloro complex is only formed in concentrated acid not in dilute 1 M HCl.More
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Friar Wire  Follow
Pardon my criticism. Note, if there is a chemist who has performed a reaction, and I get some of the details wrong, please speak up, as I, and perhaps others, should welcome the constructive advancement of the science.More
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Fazalhaleem Haleem  Follow
Your point is a classical X-Y problem. You are addressing a problem which was not asked and it does not address the main problem, what happens to More
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