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Dear Mohd Fadhli Mohd Fauzi, we speak of "salami slicing" when results of a research project are fragmented into small portions in order to artificially increase the number of papers. In order to avoid this, every paper should have a "full story". This doesn't mean the every manuscript must be a long Full Paper. It is perfectly OK to publish particularly interesting and novel findings as Short Communications. As for point (2), it is also no problem to publish several papers resulting from a larger research project. However, every individual paper should stand alone and have its own "full story".
Dear Mohd Fadhli Mohd Fauzi, we speak of "salami slicing" when results of a research project are fragmented into small portions in order to artificially increase the number of papers. In order to avoid this, every paper should have a "full story". This doesn't mean the every manuscript must be a long Full Paper. It is perfectly OK to publish particularly interesting and novel findings as Short Communications. As for point (2), it is also no problem to publish several papers resulting from a larger research project. However, every individual paper should stand alone and have its own "full story".
Dear Vadim S. Gorshkov agreed. The most important point is to avoid "undue" fragmentation of the research work. Thus in my opinion every manuscript should tell a "full story". In our field of research (chemistry) the high-ranked journals explicitely state this in the "Instructions for Authors". Attached please find a screenshot taken from the Instructions for Authors issued by the Royal Society of Chemistry (RSC). Here is is clearly stated that if "the manuscript represents undue fragmentation of the research into multiple papers" this will lead to desk rejection and the manuscript will not be sent for peer-review.
Dear Vadim S. Gorshkov agreed. The most important point is to avoid "undue" fragmentation of the research work. Thus in my opinion every manuscript should tell a "full story". In our field of research (chemistry) the high-ranked journals explicitely state this in the "Instructions for Authors". Attached please find a screenshot taken from the Instructions for Authors issued by the Royal Society of Chemistry (RSC). Here is is clearly stated that if "the manuscript represents undue fragmentation of the research into multiple papers" this will lead to desk rejection and the manuscript will not be sent for peer-review.
In fact, the problem exists. Sometimes an article written by all the rules exceeds reasonable standards in size. In these conditions, it makes sense to divide it into two (sometimes more) parts. But this is a non-trivial work, since each of the articles must have all the features thereof, i.e. it is difficult to do without duplication (self-plagiarism?). If the first article has already been published, then you can refer to it (by the way, this will be self-citation, which is also not very good), but if the first part is still in print? On the positive side, we can mention the fact that when dividing a large article into parts, you can form separate, non-matching lists of coauthors. But if we talk about the artificial creation of many articles from one work, then this requires a lot of effort, which is wiser to direct towards creating a new one.
In fact, the problem exists. Sometimes an article written by all the rules exceeds reasonable standards in size. In these conditions, it makes sense to divide it into two (sometimes more) parts. But this is a non-trivial work, since each of the articles must have all the features thereof, i.e. it is difficult to do without duplication (self-plagiarism?). If the first article has already been published, then you can refer to it (by the way, this will be self-citation, which is also not very good), but if the first part is still in print? On the positive side, we can mention the fact that when dividing a large article into parts, you can form separate, non-matching lists of coauthors. But if we talk about the artificial creation of many articles from one work, then this requires a lot of effort, which is wiser to direct towards creating a new one.
Dear Vadim S. Gorshkov when you say "Sometimes an article written by all the rules exceeds reasonable standards in size." I think there are no such standards. If an article is really important and consistent, it can easily have 20 or more printed pages. This is a really long manuscript... In the earlier times (e.g. 30 years ago) it was often argued by editors that journal space is limited. However, today various high-ranked journals in your field (chemistry) publish up to 25,000 pages per year! Moreover, it is now quite common to publiah large amounts of dats as "Supplementary Information".
Dear Vadim S. Gorshkov when you say "Sometimes an article written by all the rules exceeds reasonable standards in size." I think there are no such standards. If an article is really important and consistent, it can easily have 20 or more printed pages. This is a really long manuscript... In the earlier times (e.g. 30 years ago) it was often argued by editors that journal space is limited. However, today various high-ranked journals in your field (chemistry) publish up to 25,000 pages per year! Moreover, it is now quite common to publiah large amounts of dats as "Supplementary Information".
Dear Mohd Fadhli Mohd Fauzi apparently, the so-called "salami slicing" seems to be a severe problem in scientific publishing. It means undue fragmentation of research results that would normally be reported in one full paper. Instead, the authors write several smaller papers reporting only fragmented results of the work in order to increase the number of their publications. Please see also these interesting links about this problem: 1. Salami-slicing and plagiarism: How should we respond? ArticleSalami-slicing and plagiarism: How should we respond?
Dear Mohd Fadhli Mohd Fauzi apparently, the so-called "salami slicing" seems to be a severe problem in scientific publishing. It means undue fragmentation of research results that would normally be reported in one full paper. Instead, the authors write several smaller papers reporting only fragmented results of the work in order to increase the number of their publications. Please see also these interesting links about this problem: 1. Salami-slicing and plagiarism: How should we respond? ArticleSalami-slicing and plagiarism: How should we respond?
Dear Dr. Frank T. Edelmann "Reasonable standards" are something that no one has seen, everyone knows about them. Nobody writes articles of 50 or 100 pages. By the way, in "Supplementary Information" these are usually measurement results and their processing, and not a part of the text. When I first started my career, I wrote very verbose (in Tolstoyan), and my first boss did not so much add text and "wrote thoughts", but ruthlessly crossed out entire paragraphs or pages. I was very sorry (I used to pride myself on my ability to write a lot). But now I try to write "in Chekhov's way", although the first version of each article is a whole monograph (for start I put all the material in a pile, and then I try to connect it into a unified text), from which I cross out or pack paragraphs (the boss died long ago, but his work lives on). But I understand that every 5-page article can be easily turned into 15-page one, and then "cut" into three parts ... Inspirational perspectives!
Dear Dr. Frank T. Edelmann "Reasonable standards" are something that no one has seen, everyone knows about them. Nobody writes articles of 50 or 100 pages. By the way, in "Supplementary Information" these are usually measurement results and their processing, and not a part of the text. When I first started my career, I wrote very verbose (in Tolstoyan), and my first boss did not so much add text and "wrote thoughts", but ruthlessly crossed out entire paragraphs or pages. I was very sorry (I used to pride myself on my ability to write a lot). But now I try to write "in Chekhov's way", although the first version of each article is a whole monograph (for start I put all the material in a pile, and then I try to connect it into a unified text), from which I cross out or pack paragraphs (the boss died long ago, but his work lives on). But I understand that every 5-page article can be easily turned into 15-page one, and then "cut" into three parts ... Inspirational perspectives!
Mukherjee, A. Revisiting the Ethical Aspects in Research Publications.
[PDF] Revisiting the Ethical Aspects in Research Publications A Mukherjee - irjms.com… several instances of misconducts in the form of fabrication, falsification, plagiarism, salamislicing
and authorship … retraction and suspension of authors is leading to loss of trust among researchers.
A continuous training on research ethics needs to be encouraged from the level …
Mukherjee, A. Revisiting the Ethical Aspects in Research Publications.
[PDF] Revisiting the Ethical Aspects in Research Publications A Mukherjee - irjms.com… several instances of misconducts in the form of fabrication, falsification, plagiarism, salamislicingand authorship … retraction and suspension of authors is leading to loss of trust among researchers.A continuous training on research ethics needs to be encouraged from the level …
Dear Dr. Frank T. Edelmann "Reasonable standards" are something that no one has seen, everyone knows about them. Nobody writes articles of 50 or 100 pages. By the way, in "Supplementary Information" these are usually measurement results and their processing, and not a part of the text. When I first started my career, I wrote very verbose (in Tolstoyan), and my first boss did not so much add text and "wrote thoughts", but ruthlessly crossed out entire paragraphs or pages. I was very sorry (I used to pride myself on my ability to write a lot). But now I try to write "in Chekhov's way", although the first version of each article is a whole monograph (for start I put all the material in a pile, and then I try to connect it into a unified text), from which I cross out or pack paragraphs (the boss died long ago, but his work lives on). But I understand that every 5-page article can be easily turned into 15-page one, and then "cut" into three parts ... Inspirational perspectives!
Dear Dr. Frank T. Edelmann "Reasonable standards" are something that no one has seen, everyone knows about them. Nobody writes articles of 50 or 100 pages. By the way, in "Supplementary Information" these are usually measurement results and their processing, and not a part of the text. When I first started my career, I wrote very verbose (in Tolstoyan), and my first boss did not so much add text and "wrote thoughts", but ruthlessly crossed out entire paragraphs or pages. I was very sorry (I used to pride myself on my ability to write a lot). But now I try to write "in Chekhov's way", although the first version of each article is a whole monograph (for start I put all the material in a pile, and then I try to connect it into a unified text), from which I cross out or pack paragraphs (the boss died long ago, but his work lives on). But I understand that every 5-page article can be easily turned into 15-page one, and then "cut" into three parts ... Inspirational perspectives!
Dear Mohd Fadhli Mohd Fauzi, we speak of "salami slicing" when results of a research project are fragmented into small portions in order to artificially increase the number of papers. In order to avoid this, every paper should have a "full story". This doesn't mean the every manuscript must be a long Full Paper. It is perfectly OK to publish particularly interesting and novel findings as Short Communications. As for point (2), it is also no problem to publish several papers resulting from a larger research project. However, every individual paper should stand alone and have its own "full story".
Dear Mohd Fadhli Mohd Fauzi, we speak of "salami slicing" when results of a research project are fragmented into small portions in order to artificially increase the number of papers. In order to avoid this, every paper should have a "full story". This doesn't mean the every manuscript must be a long Full Paper. It is perfectly OK to publish particularly interesting and novel findings as Short Communications. As for point (2), it is also no problem to publish several papers resulting from a larger research project. However, every individual paper should stand alone and have its own "full story".
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Thank you Frank T. Edelmann , Anton Vrdoljak and Ingrid Del Valle García Carreño for your kind response.
Thank you Frank T. Edelmann , Anton Vrdoljak and Ingrid Del Valle García Carreño for your kind response.
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Dear Vadim S. Gorshkov agreed. The most important point is to avoid "undue" fragmentation of the research work. Thus in my opinion every manuscript should tell a "full story". In our field of research (chemistry) the high-ranked journals explicitely state this in the "Instructions for Authors". Attached please find a screenshot taken from the Instructions for Authors issued by the Royal Society of Chemistry (RSC). Here is is clearly stated that if "the manuscript represents undue fragmentation of the research into multiple papers" this will lead to desk rejection and the manuscript will not be sent for peer-review.
Dear Vadim S. Gorshkov agreed. The most important point is to avoid "undue" fragmentation of the research work. Thus in my opinion every manuscript should tell a "full story". In our field of research (chemistry) the high-ranked journals explicitely state this in the "Instructions for Authors". Attached please find a screenshot taken from the Instructions for Authors issued by the Royal Society of Chemistry (RSC). Here is is clearly stated that if "the manuscript represents undue fragmentation of the research into multiple papers" this will lead to desk rejection and the manuscript will not be sent for peer-review.
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In fact, the problem exists. Sometimes an article written by all the rules exceeds reasonable standards in size. In these conditions, it makes sense to divide it into two (sometimes more) parts. But this is a non-trivial work, since each of the articles must have all the features thereof, i.e. it is difficult to do without duplication (self-plagiarism?). If the first article has already been published, then you can refer to it (by the way, this will be self-citation, which is also not very good), but if the first part is still in print? On the positive side, we can mention the fact that when dividing a large article into parts, you can form separate, non-matching lists of coauthors.
But if we talk about the artificial creation of many articles from one work, then this requires a lot of effort, which is wiser to direct towards creating a new one.
In fact, the problem exists. Sometimes an article written by all the rules exceeds reasonable standards in size. In these conditions, it makes sense to divide it into two (sometimes more) parts. But this is a non-trivial work, since each of the articles must have all the features thereof, i.e. it is difficult to do without duplication (self-plagiarism?). If the first article has already been published, then you can refer to it (by the way, this will be self-citation, which is also not very good), but if the first part is still in print? On the positive side, we can mention the fact that when dividing a large article into parts, you can form separate, non-matching lists of coauthors.
But if we talk about the artificial creation of many articles from one work, then this requires a lot of effort, which is wiser to direct towards creating a new one.
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Dear Vadim S. Gorshkov when you say "Sometimes an article written by all the rules exceeds reasonable standards in size." I think there are no such standards. If an article is really important and consistent, it can easily have 20 or more printed pages. This is a really long manuscript... In the earlier times (e.g. 30 years ago) it was often argued by editors that journal space is limited. However, today various high-ranked journals in your field (chemistry) publish up to 25,000 pages per year! Moreover, it is now quite common to publiah large amounts of dats as "Supplementary Information".
Dear Vadim S. Gorshkov when you say "Sometimes an article written by all the rules exceeds reasonable standards in size." I think there are no such standards. If an article is really important and consistent, it can easily have 20 or more printed pages. This is a really long manuscript... In the earlier times (e.g. 30 years ago) it was often argued by editors that journal space is limited. However, today various high-ranked journals in your field (chemistry) publish up to 25,000 pages per year! Moreover, it is now quite common to publiah large amounts of dats as "Supplementary Information".
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Dear Mohd Fadhli Mohd Fauzi apparently, the so-called "salami slicing" seems to be a severe problem in scientific publishing. It means undue fragmentation of research results that would normally be reported in one full paper. Instead, the authors write several smaller papers reporting only fragmented results of the work in order to increase the number of their publications. Please see also these interesting links about this problem:
1. Salami-slicing and plagiarism: How should we respond?
Article Salami-slicing and plagiarism: How should we respond?
2. Salami publication: Definitions and examples
Article Salami publication: Definitions and examples
Dear Mohd Fadhli Mohd Fauzi apparently, the so-called "salami slicing" seems to be a severe problem in scientific publishing. It means undue fragmentation of research results that would normally be reported in one full paper. Instead, the authors write several smaller papers reporting only fragmented results of the work in order to increase the number of their publications. Please see also these interesting links about this problem:
1. Salami-slicing and plagiarism: How should we respond?
Article Salami-slicing and plagiarism: How should we respond?
2. Salami publication: Definitions and examples
Article Salami publication: Definitions and examples
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Dear Dr. Frank T. Edelmann
"Reasonable standards" are something that no one has seen, everyone knows about them. Nobody writes articles of 50 or 100 pages. By the way, in "Supplementary Information" these are usually measurement results and their processing, and not a part of the text.
When I first started my career, I wrote very verbose (in Tolstoyan), and my first boss did not so much add text and "wrote thoughts", but ruthlessly crossed out entire paragraphs or pages. I was very sorry (I used to pride myself on my ability to write a lot). But now I try to write "in Chekhov's way", although the first version of each article is a whole monograph (for start I put all the material in a pile, and then I try to connect it into a unified text), from which I cross out or pack paragraphs (the boss died long ago, but his work lives on).
But I understand that every 5-page article can be easily turned into 15-page one, and then "cut" into three parts ... Inspirational perspectives!
Dear Dr. Frank T. Edelmann
"Reasonable standards" are something that no one has seen, everyone knows about them. Nobody writes articles of 50 or 100 pages. By the way, in "Supplementary Information" these are usually measurement results and their processing, and not a part of the text.
When I first started my career, I wrote very verbose (in Tolstoyan), and my first boss did not so much add text and "wrote thoughts", but ruthlessly crossed out entire paragraphs or pages. I was very sorry (I used to pride myself on my ability to write a lot). But now I try to write "in Chekhov's way", although the first version of each article is a whole monograph (for start I put all the material in a pile, and then I try to connect it into a unified text), from which I cross out or pack paragraphs (the boss died long ago, but his work lives on).
But I understand that every 5-page article can be easily turned into 15-page one, and then "cut" into three parts ... Inspirational perspectives!
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In the publishing world, the salami-slicing is the quest to see how thinly a project can be sliced for multiple publications.
In the publishing world, the salami-slicing is the quest to see how thinly a project can be sliced for multiple publications.
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Mukherjee, A. Revisiting the Ethical Aspects in Research Publications.
[PDF] Revisiting the Ethical Aspects in Research Publications
A Mukherjee - irjms.com… several instances of misconducts in the form of fabrication, falsification, plagiarism, salami slicing and authorship … retraction and suspension of authors is leading to loss of trust among researchers. A continuous training on research ethics needs to be encouraged from the level …
Mukherjee, A. Revisiting the Ethical Aspects in Research Publications.
[PDF] Revisiting the Ethical Aspects in Research Publications
A Mukherjee - irjms.com… several instances of misconducts in the form of fabrication, falsification, plagiarism, salami slicingand authorship … retraction and suspension of authors is leading to loss of trust among researchers.A continuous training on research ethics needs to be encouraged from the level …
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Dear Dr. Frank T. Edelmann
"Reasonable standards" are something that no one has seen, everyone knows about them. Nobody writes articles of 50 or 100 pages. By the way, in "Supplementary Information" these are usually measurement results and their processing, and not a part of the text.
When I first started my career, I wrote very verbose (in Tolstoyan), and my first boss did not so much add text and "wrote thoughts", but ruthlessly crossed out entire paragraphs or pages. I was very sorry (I used to pride myself on my ability to write a lot). But now I try to write "in Chekhov's way", although the first version of each article is a whole monograph (for start I put all the material in a pile, and then I try to connect it into a unified text), from which I cross out or pack paragraphs (the boss died long ago, but his work lives on).
But I understand that every 5-page article can be easily turned into 15-page one, and then "cut" into three parts ... Inspirational perspectives!
Dear Dr. Frank T. Edelmann
"Reasonable standards" are something that no one has seen, everyone knows about them. Nobody writes articles of 50 or 100 pages. By the way, in "Supplementary Information" these are usually measurement results and their processing, and not a part of the text.
When I first started my career, I wrote very verbose (in Tolstoyan), and my first boss did not so much add text and "wrote thoughts", but ruthlessly crossed out entire paragraphs or pages. I was very sorry (I used to pride myself on my ability to write a lot). But now I try to write "in Chekhov's way", although the first version of each article is a whole monograph (for start I put all the material in a pile, and then I try to connect it into a unified text), from which I cross out or pack paragraphs (the boss died long ago, but his work lives on).
But I understand that every 5-page article can be easily turned into 15-page one, and then "cut" into three parts ... Inspirational perspectives!
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I believe the attached article can give more light on Salimi Publication.
I believe the attached article can give more light on Salimi Publication.
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