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A question about Grignard reagent and Kumada coupling

Anussukee Wijegunarathna  Follow
Yes, but methane is not a big problem, if the fume’s ventilation is “on”.
The problem is the unreacted magnesium, which is in micro/nanosuspension form and activated by the remaining traces of the preliminary added, iodine crystal that will form magnesium hydride with the “active” hydrogen; which by its turn, will react with another “active” hydrogen and will finally lead to the formation of gaseous hydrogen.
Of course, this problem can be avoided by purchasing pre-prepared methylmagnesium bromide from suppliers.

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Armando  Follow
The Grignard will attack the carbamate-carbonyl?

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Daniel Lynge  Follow
You could try a Stille-coupling where you use a tin-derivative instead of a boronic acid. I have done this reaction and you can use PdCl2 as catalyst, I think this is because the tin-derivative reduces it in situ to Pd(0).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stille_reaction

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Christopher Brennan  Follow
Thnx alot

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David Bolton  Follow
The Kumada coupling forms a C-C bond from a grignard and a molecule containing a C-X bond (X=I,Br,Cl; normally aryl-X or alkenyl-X) - I'm not sure exactly how you hope to use it here.

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David  Follow
You can use the halothiophene and grignard, just use more of the grignard when the first eq. will be consumed by the amidic proton.

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Chief Thunder  Follow
Thnx
I can certainly propose this in my thesis as I have no time more left to work in the lab.

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Azza Abdelmotamed  Follow
But even being a halothiophene derivative, the amide hydrogen will immediately deactivate the Grignard reagent.

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David Shobe  Follow
Alkylmagnesium halide will give trialkylcarbinol + benzyl alcohol + (N-)alkyl 3-thiophenamide.
But usually, low yields are obtained by using excess of Grignard reagents when active (acidic) hydrogens are present; in addition to the vigorous (and dangerous) formation of hydrogen gas (windows must be open during the reaction, in order to avoid any formation of 2/1 explosive mixture).

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Donna Baker  Follow
Ok, thank you very much

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Dareen Temgoua  Follow
Is it because the amide is acidic and will protonate the Grignard reagent?

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Brian Bi  Follow
If, for example, methylmagnesiumbromide reacts with a acidic hydrogen, does this not form methane, not hydrogen?

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Bill Hawkins  Follow
The stannane is cheap;

https://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/search?term=Tributylstannylthiophene&interface=All&N=0&mode=match%20partialmax&lang=en®ion=SE&focus=product

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divine atheist  Follow
Yes, Grignards are strong bases.

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