With a long alkyl chain the compound becomes very lipophillic and difficult to crystallise. So it may not be the chain reacting, unless it has some functionality in it. I used to work with phospholipids, with 2 saturated C19 to C20 chains. There I used to crystallise from methyl ethyl ketone at -20°C. I don't know if this will work in your case. Keep trying and it will eventually crystallise.
So the orange sticky thing could be my product?
If you can't purify by chromatography, you could try to crystallise it as the 2,4-DNP imine. Or try a sodium bisulfite adduct.
With a long alkyl chain the compound becomes very lipophillic and difficult to crystallise. So it may not be the chain reacting, unless it has some functionality in it. I used to work with phospholipids, with 2 saturated C19 to C20 chains. There I used to crystallise from methyl ethyl ketone at -20°C. I don't know if this will work in your case. Keep trying and it will eventually crystallise.
So the orange sticky thing could be my product?
If you can't purify by chromatography, you could try to crystallise it as the 2,4-DNP imine. Or try a sodium bisulfite adduct.
The orange paste was really my product Since I continued the next step using the crude paste like substance as the starting material for the next step, considerable amount of the product was given out. Im just surprised about that.
The orange paste was really my product Since I continued the next step using the crude paste like substance as the starting material for the next step, considerable amount of the product was given out. Im just surprised about that.
With a long alkyl chain the compound becomes very lipophillic and difficult to crystallise. So it may not be the chain reacting, unless it has some functionality in it. I used to work with phospholipids, with 2 saturated C19 to C20 chains. There I used to crystallise from methyl ethyl ketone at -20°C. I don't know if this will work in your case. Keep trying and it will eventually crystallise.
With a long alkyl chain the compound becomes very lipophillic and difficult to crystallise. So it may not be the chain reacting, unless it has some functionality in it. I used to work with phospholipids, with 2 saturated C19 to C20 chains. There I used to crystallise from methyl ethyl ketone at -20°C. I don't know if this will work in your case. Keep trying and it will eventually crystallise.
I agree with disco, you may have the product, however due to chain length it gets stickier and more likely to hold impurities.
I would also give a shot dissolving precursor in acetonitrile at -20 or so, and adding stoichiometric NO2BF4 followed by a acetate quench after monitoring the reaction. I have had good luck with this method for nitrations that come out less pure than desired.
I agree with disco, you may have the product, however due to chain length it gets stickier and more likely to hold impurities.
I would also give a shot dissolving precursor in acetonitrile at -20 or so, and adding stoichiometric NO2BF4 followed by a acetate quench after monitoring the reaction. I have had good luck with this method for nitrations that come out less pure than desired.
With a long alkyl chain the compound becomes very lipophillic and difficult to crystallise. So it may not be the chain reacting, unless it has some functionality in it. I used to work with phospholipids, with 2 saturated C19 to C20 chains. There I used to crystallise from methyl ethyl ketone at -20°C. I don't know if this will work in your case. Keep trying and it will eventually crystallise.
With a long alkyl chain the compound becomes very lipophillic and difficult to crystallise. So it may not be the chain reacting, unless it has some functionality in it. I used to work with phospholipids, with 2 saturated C19 to C20 chains. There I used to crystallise from methyl ethyl ketone at -20°C. I don't know if this will work in your case. Keep trying and it will eventually crystallise.
I like the Nitration idea first……..doesn't that do something (i.e. give some properties) to your ring which kindly lends itself it your product? (hint hint!) -Zack
I like the Nitration idea first……..doesn't that do something (i.e. give some properties) to your ring which kindly lends itself it your product? (hint hint!) -Zack
It could be, but not due to the chain, it's probably the aldehyde that's causing the problem. Also the longer the chain the less soluble it will be, so the reaction time may well increase to the point where the SM starts to decompose.
It could be, but not due to the chain, it's probably the aldehyde that's causing the problem. Also the longer the chain the less soluble it will be, so the reaction time may well increase to the point where the SM starts to decompose.
Yes, it could be. You should never throw anything away until you are sure you have your product.
I didnt throw it away. But it seems that the longer the chain of the R group, the more intense is the color of mt final product. With R = C8H17, the product is dark and viscous. Could it be oxidation?
Yes, it could be. You should never throw anything away until you are sure you have your product.
I didnt throw it away. But it seems that the longer the chain of the R group, the more intense is the color of mt final product. With R = C8H17, the product is dark and viscous. Could it be oxidation?
If you can't purify by chromatography, you could try to crystallise it as the 2,4-DNP imine. Or try a sodium bisulfite adduct.
If you can't purify by chromatography, you could try to crystallise it as the 2,4-DNP imine. Or try a sodium bisulfite adduct.
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Since I continued the next step using the crude paste like substance as the starting material for the next step, considerable amount of the product was given out.
Im just surprised about that.
Since I continued the next step using the crude paste like substance as the starting material for the next step, considerable amount of the product was given out.
Im just surprised about that.
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I used to work with phospholipids, with 2 saturated C19 to C20 chains. There I used to crystallise from methyl ethyl ketone at -20°C.
I don't know if this will work in your case.
Keep trying and it will eventually crystallise.
I used to work with phospholipids, with 2 saturated C19 to C20 chains. There I used to crystallise from methyl ethyl ketone at -20°C.
I don't know if this will work in your case.
Keep trying and it will eventually crystallise.
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I would also give a shot dissolving precursor in acetonitrile at -20 or so, and adding stoichiometric NO2BF4 followed by a acetate quench after monitoring the reaction. I have had good luck with this method for nitrations that come out less pure than desired.
I would also give a shot dissolving precursor in acetonitrile at -20 or so, and adding stoichiometric NO2BF4 followed by a acetate quench after monitoring the reaction. I have had good luck with this method for nitrations that come out less pure than desired.
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Also the longer the chain the less soluble it will be, so the reaction time may well increase to the point where the SM starts to decompose.
Also the longer the chain the less soluble it will be, so the reaction time may well increase to the point where the SM starts to decompose.
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I didnt throw it away. But it seems that the longer the chain of the R group, the more intense is the color of mt final product.
With R = C8H17, the product is dark and viscous. Could it be oxidation?
I didnt throw it away. But it seems that the longer the chain of the R group, the more intense is the color of mt final product.
With R = C8H17, the product is dark and viscous. Could it be oxidation?
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