Home >
Community >
IUPAC nomenclature: Smallest sum of locants?
Upvote
22
Downvote
+ Biochemistry
+ Nomenclature
Posted by
Kerry Opel
IUPAC nomenclature: Smallest sum of locants?
The guideline that you have mentioned (‘While naming any compound, the numbering should be done such that position of substituted groups gives the smallest sum.’) does not exist in the IUPAC recommendations.
The lowest set of locants is defined as the set that, when compared term by term with other locant sets, each cited in order of increasing value, has the lowest term at the first point of difference; for example, the locant set ‘2,3,5,8’ is lower than ‘3,4,6,8’ and ‘2,4,5,7’.
(…)
Therefore, the smallest sum of locants can lead to wrong results.
For example, for 2,7,8-trimethyldecane, the smallest sum of locants would yield the wrong name ‘3,4,9-trimethyldecane’, since $2+7+8=17 > 3+4+9=16$.
Likewise, for 2,2,6,6,7-pentamethyloctane, the smallest sum of locants would yield the wrong name ‘2,3,3,7,7-pentamethyloctane’, since $2 + 2 + 6 + 6 + 7 = 23 > 2 + 3 + 3 + 7 + 7 = 22$.
For 1,6,7-trimethylnaphthalene, the smallest sum of locants would yield the wrong name ‘2,3,5-trimethylnaphthalene’, since $1 + 6 + 7 = 14 > 2 + 3 + 5 = 10$.
For 1,6-dimethylcyclohex-1-ene, the smallest sum of locants would yield the wrong name ‘2,3-dimethylcyclohex-1-ene’, since $1 + 6 = 7 > 2 + 3 = 5$.
Anyway, the IUPAC recommendations have more than 1500 pages. Hence, you should be careful when applying any simplified or abridged version of the nomenclature rules.
The guideline that you have mentioned (‘While naming any compound, the numbering should be done such that position of substituted groups gives the smallest sum.’) does not exist in the IUPAC recommendations.
The lowest set of locants is defined as the set that, when compared term by term with other locant sets, each cited in order of increasing value, has the lowest term at the first point of difference; for example, the locant set ‘2,3,5,8’ is lower than ‘3,4,6,8’ and ‘2,4,5,7’. (…)
Therefore, the smallest sum of locants can lead to wrong results.
For example, for 2,7,8-trimethyldecane, the smallest sum of locants would yield the wrong name ‘3,4,9-trimethyldecane’, since $2+7+8=17 > 3+4+9=16$.
Likewise, for 2,2,6,6,7-pentamethyloctane, the smallest sum of locants would yield the wrong name ‘2,3,3,7,7-pentamethyloctane’, since $2 + 2 + 6 + 6 + 7 = 23 > 2 + 3 + 3 + 7 + 7 = 22$.
For 1,6,7-trimethylnaphthalene, the smallest sum of locants would yield the wrong name ‘2,3,5-trimethylnaphthalene’, since $1 + 6 + 7 = 14 > 2 + 3 + 5 = 10$.
For 1,6-dimethylcyclohex-1-ene, the smallest sum of locants would yield the wrong name ‘2,3-dimethylcyclohex-1-ene’, since $1 + 6 = 7 > 2 + 3 = 5$.
Anyway, the IUPAC recommendations have more than 1500 pages. Hence, you should be careful when applying any simplified or abridged version of the nomenclature rules.
I am not able to understand the lines by IUPAC which you quoted. Do you mean that if we have 2 ways in which carbons attached to functional groups can be numbered, then we should arrange both these sets with their elements in increasing order e.g. {7,11,19} and {3,11,15}then first we will 3 & 7 and 3<7 so {3,11} is correct and we dont need to compare the remaining numbers AT ALL?More
The way you have stated the rule can be misleading or even incorrect at times.
I think what you are talking about is the lowest locant rule or the first-point difference rule.
The principal functional group is given the lowest possible locant.
The substituents are then assigned locants based on this numbering scheme in such a way as to give the lowest locant number at the first time there is a difference.
In the event that there is no first point of difference in the locants, substituents are numbered based on alphabetization giving the first substituent the lowest possible locant number.
The way you have stated the rule can be misleading or even incorrect at times.
I think what you are talking about is the lowest locant rule or the first-point difference rule.
The principal functional group is given the lowest possible locant.
The substituents are then assigned locants based on this numbering scheme in such a way as to give the lowest locant number at the first time there is a difference.
In the event that there is no first point of difference in the locants, substituents are numbered based on alphabetization giving the first substituent the lowest possible locant number.
The guideline that you have mentioned (‘While naming any compound, the numbering should be done such that position of substituted groups gives the smallest sum.’) does not exist in the IUPAC recommendations.
The corresponding section in the current version of Nomenclature of Organic Chemistry – IUPAC Recommendations and Preferred Names 2013 (Blue Book) actually reads as follows:
Therefore, the smallest sum of locants can lead to wrong results.
For example, for 2,7,8-trimethyldecane, the smallest sum of locants would yield the wrong name ‘3,4,9-trimethyldecane’, since $2+7+8=17 > 3+4+9=16$.
Likewise, for 2,2,6,6,7-pentamethyloctane, the smallest sum of locants would yield the wrong name ‘2,3,3,7,7-pentamethyloctane’, since $2 + 2 + 6 + 6 + 7 = 23 > 2 + 3 + 3 + 7 + 7 = 22$.
For 1,6,7-trimethylnaphthalene, the smallest sum of locants would yield the wrong name ‘2,3,5-trimethylnaphthalene’, since $1 + 6 + 7 = 14 > 2 + 3 + 5 = 10$.
For 1,6-dimethylcyclohex-1-ene, the smallest sum of locants would yield the wrong name ‘2,3-dimethylcyclohex-1-ene’, since $1 + 6 = 7 > 2 + 3 = 5$.
Anyway, the IUPAC recommendations have more than 1500 pages. Hence, you should be careful when applying any simplified or abridged version of the nomenclature rules.
The guideline that you have mentioned (‘While naming any compound, the numbering should be done such that position of substituted groups gives the smallest sum.’) does not exist in the IUPAC recommendations.
The corresponding section in the current version of Nomenclature of Organic Chemistry – IUPAC Recommendations and Preferred Names 2013 (Blue Book) actually reads as follows:
Therefore, the smallest sum of locants can lead to wrong results.
For example, for 2,7,8-trimethyldecane, the smallest sum of locants would yield the wrong name ‘3,4,9-trimethyldecane’, since $2+7+8=17 > 3+4+9=16$.
Likewise, for 2,2,6,6,7-pentamethyloctane, the smallest sum of locants would yield the wrong name ‘2,3,3,7,7-pentamethyloctane’, since $2 + 2 + 6 + 6 + 7 = 23 > 2 + 3 + 3 + 7 + 7 = 22$.
For 1,6,7-trimethylnaphthalene, the smallest sum of locants would yield the wrong name ‘2,3,5-trimethylnaphthalene’, since $1 + 6 + 7 = 14 > 2 + 3 + 5 = 10$.
For 1,6-dimethylcyclohex-1-ene, the smallest sum of locants would yield the wrong name ‘2,3-dimethylcyclohex-1-ene’, since $1 + 6 = 7 > 2 + 3 = 5$.
Anyway, the IUPAC recommendations have more than 1500 pages. Hence, you should be careful when applying any simplified or abridged version of the nomenclature rules.
More
VOTE
VOTE
There are lots of sites,blogs and other online sources where you can learn about the topic in depth. http://chemwiki.ucdavis.edu/Organic_Chemistry/Hydrocarbons/Alkanes/Properties_of_Alkanes/Cycloalkanes/Nomenclature_of_Cycloalkanes. and here is the site where you can learn by watching online http://leah4sci.com/naming-organic-compounds-iupac-nomenclature/ . You can get many videos in YouTube as well. So go for these sources.
There are lots of sites,blogs and other online sources where you can learn about the topic in depth. http://chemwiki.ucdavis.edu/Organic_Chemistry/Hydrocarbons/Alkanes/Properties_of_Alkanes/Cycloalkanes/Nomenclature_of_Cycloalkanes. and here is the site where you can learn by watching online http://leah4sci.com/naming-organic-compounds-iupac-nomenclature/ . You can get many videos in YouTube as well. So go for these sources.
More
VOTE
VOTE
VOTE
VOTE
The way you have stated the rule can be misleading or even incorrect at times.
I think what you are talking about is the lowest locant rule or the first-point difference rule.
You might find this link relevant.
The way you have stated the rule can be misleading or even incorrect at times.
I think what you are talking about is the lowest locant rule or the first-point difference rule.
You might find this link relevant.
More
VOTE